I don't even...

[jennickels]

I was reading an article on the idiot in West Virginia who is suing the state for teaching evolution when I find this gem in the comments:

In case you can't see, this person says, "One theory from my surgeon in Tualua, Colombia: We arrived here about 3 Billion years ago as few survivors following all-out war Moon-Mars."

Da fuq?

His surgeon said this.

His surgeon.

SURGEON!

He also says this, "There are so many buildings, also in Peru and Bolivia that "we" couldn't possibly have built. Were we really at a higher level technologically in earlier times or ??? How to move a 1,200 ton obelisk ? And so on. Today we can't do it."

Umm...



This was from a UK publication.

And from the comment section of the Facebook post:


"Well, if it was me, I would argue, that you can't teach a theory that has never been proven or observed and goes against scientific law....The Biological law of bio-gensis and the 2nd law of thermodynamics. It's unconstitutional to teach things that aren't true."

"Micro-evolution I will agree has been observed, they can teach that...But, Macro-evolution and teaching that we evolvoed from rock...no, I don't think that's right."

Derp.

Comments

[nynaeve-sedai.livejournal.com]

*sigh*

They don't understand what "theory" means in the scientific community. Across the board in the U.S. we have a severe scientific illiteracy (not just the right wing nutjobs - check out the very liberal crunchy moms of CA who think vaccines cause all the things).

I was in a regular school, learned about evolution (but it wasn't taught very well). It took me a while to really get a handle on it, plus reading some stuff by some really good theologians, that helped me. A decade ago I probably sounded like some of those that commented (not the conspiracy theorists obviously). I started questioning some things and went on a hunt for a few years looking for good info.

These laws disappoint me.

(If you would love to spend time reading about the other stupid things people say there's a FB page called "Things anti-vaxers say" - but you might lose all faith in humanity at that point. The conspiracy theories are to die for though!)

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[jennickels.livejournal.com]

What really saddens me is that Americans are proud of their illiteracy. Even my 9yo agrees that, as a group, Americans are stupid. And the stupidity and/or ignorance is found at every level on both sides of the political spectrum. At least ignorance can be corrected--if the people want to learn. It doesn't seem like that's likely, though. People seem to want to stay ignorant. I'm often surprised, dismayed and amused while reading this one group on facebook which is filled mostly with skeptics and atheists who believe in critical thinking (also the occasional fundie preaching crazy--which is always entertaining).

The same people that can easily explain evolution and take apart religious mythology insist that chem trails are real, that 9/11 was an inside job, and that the entire medical/scientific world is conspiring to poison us with vaccines. And they can't even see the irony of their illogical belief in conspiracy theories.

There's also this one atheist nut-job that insists agnostics don't exist and they are in denial about their atheism or belief. No matter how many times people try to explain the difference between agnosticism (which is a declaration of knowledge) and atheism (a declaration of belief), he refuses to see it.

[jennickels.livejournal.com]

I went to Catholic school for thirteen years, but we still learned about evolution in science class. I really don't remember how in depth it was taught, but I understood the basic concept in junior high. We probably got more into it in biology in high school.

Maybe it's because I was already leaning towards non-belief that it clicked so easily with me. Some of the other kids had a harder time reconciling it with the creation stories we were taught in religion class. I just figured God's day could be billions of years, he created the world and everything in it, then let it progress through evolution. I kind of just ignored the part about Adam and Eve. Most Catholics (at least the ones I know) believe that, or believe it's a plausible explanation.