I don't even...

[jennickels]

I was reading an article on the idiot in West Virginia who is suing the state for teaching evolution when I find this gem in the comments:

In case you can't see, this person says, "One theory from my surgeon in Tualua, Colombia: We arrived here about 3 Billion years ago as few survivors following all-out war Moon-Mars."

Da fuq?

His surgeon said this.

His surgeon.

SURGEON!

He also says this, "There are so many buildings, also in Peru and Bolivia that "we" couldn't possibly have built. Were we really at a higher level technologically in earlier times or ??? How to move a 1,200 ton obelisk ? And so on. Today we can't do it."

Umm...



This was from a UK publication.

And from the comment section of the Facebook post:


"Well, if it was me, I would argue, that you can't teach a theory that has never been proven or observed and goes against scientific law....The Biological law of bio-gensis and the 2nd law of thermodynamics. It's unconstitutional to teach things that aren't true."

"Micro-evolution I will agree has been observed, they can teach that...But, Macro-evolution and teaching that we evolvoed from rock...no, I don't think that's right."

Derp.

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"We arrived here about 3 Billion years ago as few survivors following all-out war Moon-Mars."

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> "There are so many buildings, also in Peru and Bolivia that "we" couldn't possibly have built. Were we really at a higher level technologically in earlier times or ??? How to move a 1,200 ton obelisk ? And so on. Today we can't do it."

That is so fucking racist I can't even. None of those cranks ever claim that Stonehenge or the Roman Coliseum was too advanced for us to build. Ignorant, uneducated, misinformed garbage like that makes me so mad.

Re: "We arrived here about 3 Billion years ago as few survivors following all-out war Moon-Mars."

[jennickels.livejournal.com]

But aliens really did build the pyramids as landing sites for their spaceships. Daniel Jackson says so.

MY FANDOM HAS FLYING SPACE PYRAMIDS

[campylobacter.livejournal.com]

I have the sneaking suspicion that the Stargate movie reboot won't try to correct that plot point ;P

[raktajinos.livejournal.com]

lol I'd totally read a book about the Moon Wars....maybe I should write that. lols.

people be whack yo. hahahahahahah

sidenote, I'm reading Bill Nye (the Science Guy)'s new book and it's all about evolution and the rising right-wing conservative push to ban it and critical thought/science from schools. It's a really fascinating book, worth checking out. Try the audio book, cause Bill reads it himself and he's delightful.

[jennickels.livejournal.com]

I totally want to write that. As a lover of post-apocalyptic/dystopian si-fi, I contemplate these things all of the time.

I need to read more "sane" writing instead of right-wing nut-job rantings via HuffPo or wherever. I never watched Bill Nye when I was younger, but he's the man. Him and Neil deGrasse Tyson. I love them both.

[raktajinos.livejournal.com]

We should write it! Become world famous authors. And when we're on NPR talking about the origin of our story, we'll laugh. lol.

Sometimes I feel like I insulate myself in feminist only spaces on the internet, so I forget that people suck so then I'll wonder onto a "normal" site like Entertainment Weekly and be horrified by the comments being made. I legit hate people.

Bill Nye!!! I adore him. I watched him all the time as a kid. It makes me so happy that he's come back with a vengeance to fight against the right wing craziness. Tyson is AWESOME too. I imagine they like hang out together, being awesome.

[jennickels.livejournal.com]

I spend way too much time in areas of the internet that highlight the crazy--fundies, right-wingers, men's rights wackos, conspiracy nuts, etc. I have to wander my way into some sane spaces once in a while to restore my faith in humanity.

And Bill and Neil totally hang out together--it's the reason we have rainbows and an overabundance of cat videos--their awesomeness leaks out to the interwebz.

[raktajinos.livejournal.com]

Oh geez, that sounds awful. Why must you torture yourself so. I mean, it's good to know what the wackos are saying though. Know thy enemy.


"And Bill and Neil totally hang out together--it's the reason we have rainbows and an overabundance of cat videos--their awesomeness leaks out to the interwebz."

truth.

[nynaeve-sedai.livejournal.com]

*sigh*

They don't understand what "theory" means in the scientific community. Across the board in the U.S. we have a severe scientific illiteracy (not just the right wing nutjobs - check out the very liberal crunchy moms of CA who think vaccines cause all the things).

I was in a regular school, learned about evolution (but it wasn't taught very well). It took me a while to really get a handle on it, plus reading some stuff by some really good theologians, that helped me. A decade ago I probably sounded like some of those that commented (not the conspiracy theorists obviously). I started questioning some things and went on a hunt for a few years looking for good info.

These laws disappoint me.

(If you would love to spend time reading about the other stupid things people say there's a FB page called "Things anti-vaxers say" - but you might lose all faith in humanity at that point. The conspiracy theories are to die for though!)

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[jennickels.livejournal.com]

What really saddens me is that Americans are proud of their illiteracy. Even my 9yo agrees that, as a group, Americans are stupid. And the stupidity and/or ignorance is found at every level on both sides of the political spectrum. At least ignorance can be corrected--if the people want to learn. It doesn't seem like that's likely, though. People seem to want to stay ignorant. I'm often surprised, dismayed and amused while reading this one group on facebook which is filled mostly with skeptics and atheists who believe in critical thinking (also the occasional fundie preaching crazy--which is always entertaining).

The same people that can easily explain evolution and take apart religious mythology insist that chem trails are real, that 9/11 was an inside job, and that the entire medical/scientific world is conspiring to poison us with vaccines. And they can't even see the irony of their illogical belief in conspiracy theories.

There's also this one atheist nut-job that insists agnostics don't exist and they are in denial about their atheism or belief. No matter how many times people try to explain the difference between agnosticism (which is a declaration of knowledge) and atheism (a declaration of belief), he refuses to see it.

[jennickels.livejournal.com]

I went to Catholic school for thirteen years, but we still learned about evolution in science class. I really don't remember how in depth it was taught, but I understood the basic concept in junior high. We probably got more into it in biology in high school.

Maybe it's because I was already leaning towards non-belief that it clicked so easily with me. Some of the other kids had a harder time reconciling it with the creation stories we were taught in religion class. I just figured God's day could be billions of years, he created the world and everything in it, then let it progress through evolution. I kind of just ignored the part about Adam and Eve. Most Catholics (at least the ones I know) believe that, or believe it's a plausible explanation.

[lolmac]

LMAO at "Religion is heroine!" Goddess bless us all.

Personally, I'm quite sure I did not evolve from a rock. But after due examination of the cranial output, this individual appears to have evolved into one.

[jennickels.livejournal.com]

OMG, best reply yet.

this rocks my world

[lolmac]

OMG perfect icon!!!

Re: this rocks my world

[jennickels.livejournal.com]

That's George, my daughter's pet rock. Seriously.